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Cerebras CEO Andrew Feldman on the Future of Data Centres, Token Costs & Memory Shortages

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Andrew Feldman (founder/CEO, Cerebras) with Harry Stebbings, one week after **the largest semiconductor IPO ever — priced $185, traded to $311, raised $5.5B+**. The headline thesis is the **inverse-of-a-bubble argument**: in past buildouts (fiber late-90s, 1880s rail), *'the infrastructure buildout was way ahead of demand — if we build it they will come.'* AI is the opposite: *'we can't build data centres fast enough to keep up with demand. We have a $25 billion backlog. Nvidia has a backlog, AMD has a backlog. We're building BEHIND demand, not ahead of it — that is not a characteristic of a bubble.'* On **memory** (the cross-show signal of the week): *'memory is the number-two item in the supply chain after TSMC fab space... if demand stays high we are going to continue to see memory shortages for at least the next several years'* — with prices up 4-5x in certain cases. On **Nvidia's neo-cloud strategy**: *'it has been Nvidia's strategy to create competitors for the traditional hyperscalers — they have funded and backstopped and over-allocated to the neo-clouds, creating a dependence which is probably not healthy.'* On the **OpenAI ↔ Elon compute deal**: OpenAI bought *'down-rev gear — H100s, B200s, a generation and a half maybe two generations behind. It was a good deal for Elon — he had them sitting around — but not the ideal deal OpenAI wanted.'* Endorses Gavin Baker's **metering analogy** — permitting/data-centre delays smooth demand like freeway on-ramp meters. On long-run economics: *'the history of our industry is a massive reduction in cost per unit compute for hard problems — there is no upper bound to how much faster you want to be.'*

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We can't build data centers fast enough to keep up with demand. We have a $25 billion backlog. If demand stays high, we are going to continue to see memory shortages for at least the next several years.

Andrew Feldman · 0:00

In past bubbles you had a penchant to believe that if we built it, they would come. The infrastructure buildout was way ahead of demand. That was true in railroads, true in fiber optic cabling. AI is the exact opposite. We're building behind demand. That is not a characteristic of a bubble.

Andrew Feldman · 6:00

It has been Nvidia's strategy to try and create competitors for the traditional hyperscalers. They have funded and backstopped and over-allocated to the neo clouds. They have created a dependence which is probably not healthy.

Andrew Feldman · 2:00

They bought down-rev gear. H100s, B200s. They are a generation and a half, maybe two generations behind. This was not a great deal. It was a good deal for Elon, he had them sitting around, but it was the deal that was available.

Andrew Feldman · 10:00

Memory after TSMC, which is right after fab space, memory is number two item in this supply chain. There is such extraordinary growth in demand that it is putting pressure on all parts of the supply chain.

Andrew Feldman · 11:20

The history of our industry is a massive reduction in the cost per unit compute for hard problems. There is no upper bound to how much faster you want to be.

Andrew Feldman · 1:30

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