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Anthropic Raises $45B but Falls Short on Compute & Thoma Bravo Hand Back Medallia

1h 28m · Transcribed via assemblyai · Watch on YouTube

Lemkin/Rory/Harry on the four-headline week: Anthropic takes another $45B from hyperscalers and is STILL compute-short; OpenAI misses both revenue and user-growth numbers; China blocks Manus's $2B acquisition; and Thoma Bravo hands Medallia to creditors with $5.1B of equity wiped out. Lemkin's flip — he's 'back to Team Sam' because his agents prefer OpenAI's API. Three-bucket framework for the SaaS apocalypse: melting iceberg, system-of-record, agent-using.

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I'm back on Team Sam. My agents like OpenAI. They love the API. I have to back my team of agents.

Jason Lemkin · 5:50

Three buckets for SaaS now: eroding terminal value, system of record, or agent-using. Only the third gets growth re-acceleration.

Rory · 20:00

An AI agent is not going to go in and move assets around in Canva. It's just going to create the assets.

Jason Lemkin · 30:00

It's a whole new world where I think OpenAI is even more competitive again. The agents will pick.

Jason Lemkin · 4:40

You can't service $2B of debt on a $1B low-growth pre-AI company that has to transform to AI.

Rory · 3:40

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