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All-In Podcast

Socialists Sweep NYC, China Catches Up in Coding, AI Memory Crunch, Micron's Blowout Quarter

1h 41m · Transcribed via assemblyai · Watch on YouTube

All-In #278 (Freeberg out; Travis Kalanick and Gavin Baker guesting) spans politics, China and — most usefully for a builder — AI-infrastructure economics. **Politics:** the DSA swept NYC's Democratic primaries (Mamdani's slate 3-for-3), which the table reads as a generational, downwardly-mobile-progressive + migrant coalition; Sacks frames the future as **'communism... of the Democrat Party, or nationalism in the Republican Party,'** while Chamath reframes the whole backlash through AI — **'AI is the greatest economic leveler [we] will ever find in our lifetime'** that Silicon Valley has branded so badly it created a vacuum socialism filled. **China:** Z.AI's open-weight GLM-5.2 lands a tick below Opus 4.8 on coding at ~85% lower cost, reportedly trained on Huawei chips; Gavin concedes heavy **distillation** ('a cheat sheet for other models to catch up') but argues the future is **composable models — Karpathy's 'council of LLMs'** routing most queries to a cheap open model and only the hardest to frontier checkers, and that open source 'shifts economic value from the frontier labs to the infrastructure.' Sacks (now running PCAST) hammers the race: GLM is as good as the *currently available* US models while Fable/GPT-5.6 sit in regulatory purgatory — **'we are going to lose if we keep doing this stuff to ourselves.'** **The infra core:** Micron's blowout (HBM sold out, stock ~14×) headlines a **DRAM bottleneck** Gavin calls the one that matters — **'memory capacity and bandwidth are foundational to the performance of every AI model'** — DRAM heading toward 30-40% of hyperscaler capex and pushing 'AI-flation' onto Apple/consumer kit. And the first-principles bet: data centres are getting *more* expensive (~$35bn silicon + ~$25bn power/cooling per gigawatt terrestrially), so **reusable Starship at '~$5 billion to put a gigawatt of compute into space'** makes orbital compute pencil — 'racks in space linked with lasers' — while modular 'Megapods' and distributed/disaggregated inference (Groq/Cerebras decode in front of old GPUs) reshape where compute lives. **Markets:** Gavin pegs Anthropic at **'$3 trillion today'**, says the IPO wave is just private-to-public reshuffling capital markets can absorb, and dissects Cerebras breaking deal price (forced 'sell-no-matter-what' PMs → auction, don't over-price).

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I think AI is the greatest economic leveler will ever find in our lifetime.

D · 3:31

the choices of the future are gonna be communism, or if you want to call it socialism, of the Democrat Party, or nationalism in the Republican Party.

E · 7:10

you're gonna have what Andrej Karpathy called the council of LLMs.

C · 48:46

This is the most important bottleneck simply because memory capacity and bandwidth are foundational to the performance of every AI model.

C · 1:03:53

When Starship is reusable, it's going to cost $5 billion to put a gigawatt of compute into space.

C · 1:12:27

I think Anthropic is worth $3 trillion today, and it's very important.

C · 1:28:26

We are going to lose if we keep doing this stuff to ourselves.

D · 58:26

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